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                                    A VISIoN                                    “So it was, right lads, let’s knock this      has been a failure of people,       Each one was given
                                                                                                                                                                  three minutes to
                                                                                out as quickly as possible because then
                                                                                                                              including commissioners,
                                    for THE                                     we’ll record our next album during the        to deconstruct the current system   make a pitch for
                                                                                rest of the day”. Which is just what
                                                                                                                                                                  funding. Paul gave
                                                                                                                              and replace it with something better.
                                                                                they did.
                                                                                                                                                                  the pitch about Gig
                                    ’gIg SocIETy’                               The band dissolved in 2012. “Michael          It has also been hard to get through to   Buddies – and won!
                                                                                                                                                                  After three days
                                                                                                                              staff. “There is a hard core of people
                                                                                the drummer said I’m 50. I want to            who get it but a majority of support   of hard work he
                                    Paul Richards has already                   retire”. It seemed to be a good time          workers are just going along with the   says he went
                                    started and run several                     for everyone to call it a day and they        system”. Radical change is the solution   home absolutely
                                                                                                                              he would like see: “They say that
                                                                                                                                                                  shattered and his
                                                                                ended with a gig in Trafalgar Square
                                    successful projects, notably the            as part of the Olympics celebrations.         making cultural change is like trying to   partner asked,
                                    Stay Up Late Campaign. Now he                                                             stop a super tanker. Well, you can do   “So how much
       has another project, Gig Buddies, which has really taken off,            Taken root                                    that if you use torpedoes!”         did you win?”
                                                                                Meanwhile, Stay Up Late had already
                                                                                                                                                                  The answer was
       as he told Seán Kelly                                                    taken root. Paul says the band had            What has changed, Paul thinks, is that   just £2,000,
                                                                                always realised that by the time they         the campaign has increased discontent   but it was a start.
                                                                                went on stage many members of the             with the current state of affairs.   Southdown’s
                                                                                audience had gone home. They knew             He quotes a recent survey in        director Aideen
       “       e are calling this          Three members of the band had        that people had to go home with their         Hertfordshire. “They did this surprise   Jones persuaded
         Wour vision for the               learning disabilities and two did not.   staff because shifts were coming to an    audit at 8.30 in the evening.       the Board of
       Gig Society! I know it’s a          Paul says, “There weren’t any other   end and it was time for ‘handover’.          Social workers went round to see    Trustees to award
       terrible pun, but we are            bands around like us at the time”.   Paul jokes that they were pleased to          what was going on and 61 per cent   £5,000 so suddenly
       doing it in spite of the Big        The band soon got a residency at the   know that it wasn’t the quality of the      of people were ready for bed.       £2K had become
       Society because it is how           Blue Camel, an ‘inclusive club’.     music that was sending people home.           Calderdale did the same thing and   £7K! Paul then
       communities should behave”.   Paul says that at first he was unsure.     Heavy Load briefly took to asking if the      got the same results”. Stay Up Late   managed to get
       Paul Richards is speaking           “I was in another band and           band could go onstage and play                did their own survey of nearly 200   some additional
       about Gig Buddies. You may          rehearsing three times a week.       earlier in the evening. “But we soon          people which shows better results,   funding from East
       know Paul as the bass player  Heavy Load was just this out-pouring       stuck to our guns and went on later,          not so surprising perhaps since many   and West Sussex
       of Punk Legends’ ‘Heavy             of sheer joy and bedlam! It took me   even if we were playing to no-one.           respondents might well be supporters   Councils and soon
       Load’, or as the Director of        a little while to adjust. We realised   We were a punk band!”                      of the campaign. Nearly three quarters   had enough to    Paul Richards: “Matching is really important. It’s based on
       the Stay Up Late Campaign           we were just having such great fun.                                                of people with learning disabilities who  employ a member   getting to know people and it’s not something you can do
       and Charity, or most recently       I suppose that’s the moment you just   A crystallising moment came after           responded said that they could stay out   of staff part-time.   online with an app. People need to really share an interest.
       you may know him from               embrace that chaos and think this    Heavy Load did a mainstream gig in            after 10pm (48 per cent with support   Madeline started   It’s not just a dating agency without the sex”.
       promoting Gig Buddies,              is great”.                           a regular music pub with two other            and 24 per cent who didn’t need     on two days a                                                                     Photo: Seán Kelly
       a Stay Up Late project.                                                  mainstream bands. The band was                support). Depressingly, however,    week. Now she is
                                           The band played at the Beautiful     concerned about how they would be             the great majority of respondents said   the full time manager
       I met Paul in Brighton and it turns out to  Octopus Club and other disability   received and to start with the audience   they knew other people who could   and has an assistant and admin     like great fun it can also deliver some
       be an interesting time for him and the   and inclusive clubs. Then Jerry   were like, “What the …??”. But by the       not stay out after 10pm. Paul says he   support. Stay Up Late has just passed   ‘meaty’ outcomes in terms of mental
       project. On the one hand some of Gig   Rothwell made a movie about them.   end everyone was converted, singing         hopes that Stay Up Late is making this   its third birthday and there are now 70   and physical well-being.
       Buddies’ core funding has been cut by   “He followed us around for two and a   along and linking arms. For the band it   nasty boil bigger. “With all this   successful matchings across Sussex.
       East Sussex. Only recently this would   half years. I didn’t believe it was ever   was a great achievement. “Afterwards   discontent maybe it will burst!”.                                     What’s your gig?
       have meant the end of the project   going to happen and still, looking back  we were all having a drink and a chat,                                        Paul says the matching is really     The project has also been widening its
       but there are now plans to work with   on it, I can’t quite believe it did”.  a post-gig post-mortem. Michael had      Positive focus                      important. It’s based on getting to know   remit so it is not just about rock ‘n roll.
       partners to develop up to 20 new Gig                                     half a pint of beer left and his              Paul is keen to keep a positive focus   people and it’s not something you can   The question, “What’s your gig?” can
       Buddies projects on a social franchise   From low-key beginnings Heavy Load   support worker came up and said,         and for the campaign to shine a light   do online with an app. People need to   now encompass answers that include
       basis.  Paul seems to have a calm and   went on to play in Berlin, New York,   ‘Come on, drink up, it’s time to go     on where people have got it right.   really share an interest. “It’s not just a   going to church, going for walks,
       even philosophical approach to the   Denmark, a squat in Copenhagen and   home’. That was the moment that              He cites Gettalife, a small organisation   dating agency without the sex”.  photography and just about any other
       whole thing. It occurs to me that he  twice at the Glastonbury Festival.   Stay Up Late started”.                      which will provide 24-hour cover with                                    interest. One man with learning
       is a rather Zen Punk!                                                                                                  three people doing long shifts which   The new Gig Buddies projects will be   disabilities has been going with a
                                           They were commissioned to write      Paul emphasises that people don’t have        means they can support the person   developed through social franchising.   buddy to visit Sussex chapels.
       Rock ’n roll                        the theme tune for a Channel 4       to stay up late. “I always say we don’t       doing whatever they want to do,     This means that they will be run
       How did it all start? The answer as   programme called Cast-Offs. Paul met   care what time people go to bed but       whether it’s sleeping or going out.  and funded independently and the    Meanwhile new Gig Buddies projects
       you might expect has everything to do   the producers in a hipster café who   we do if they have no choice”.                                               current staff will provide the know-how.   are threatening to break out all
       with rock ‘n roll. Paul was originally a   told him, “We want noise, anarchy,                                          The Stay Up Late campaign led almost   This should mean that the results will   over. Paul expects ten new projects to
       support worker for Southdown Housing   chaos. Music like you don’t hear on   Is it working? Are people staying up      inevitably to Gig Buddies. How could   look quite different in different places,   start within the next year and
       in Brighton. Jim, a guy with learning   TV normally’. I said, “Yes, we can   late? “At the moment if I am honest I     people stay up late? By having a friend  with different solutions based on   that includes new projects in
       disabilities, had started a band.   do that”. One of the producers said,   would say it is probably not working.       with the same interests who would   local knowledge.                     Portsmouth, Scotland and even in
       The first bass guitarist left and Paul,   “I love your can-do attitude”. I said,   We are facing the biggest challenge   go out with them. Paul developed the                                   Sydney in Australia.
       who didn’t play bass but, just like   “Well, you’ve just sort of described   yet with the cuts”. But he points out     idea at a Brighton conference looking   Meanwhile the whole project is being
       Noel Redding with the Jimi Hendrix   what we can do. If you’d asked for   that the problem of people going             at ideas to make the city better for its   researched by RIPFA (Research in   Paul clearly has a restless appetite for
       Experience, or Kim Deal with the    anything else…”. Heavy Load found    home at 8.30pm existed when the               residents. Several hundred people   Practice for Adults). Paul feels the   change and development – who knows
       Pixies, took it up because he wanted to   themselves with a day in the studio to   movie was made in 2006, two years   attended and assisted in the        need for academic evidence to back   what this Zen Punk manager and his
       join the band.                      record just 19 seconds of music.     before the global crisis. He says there       development of 27 different ideas.   his view that while the project looks   colleagues will come up with next?

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