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in conversation

        When they first met, Latheron refused
       to sing in front of Pemberton. Pemberton
       asked him why and Latheron said:
       “Because I can’t sing!” Latheron asked if
       he could write songs instead: “I said, well,
       I kind of keep everything inside of me –
       do you know what I mean? – like my
       emotions, or everything.”
        He felt writing songs might help him to
       express some of those emotions. And that
       is exactly what happened. Pemberton
       helped him record the songs and sang on
       some of them, along with other
       professional singers.
        The result is that Latheron has joined
       an illustrious line of songwriters who
       write songs for others. About 10 of the
       songs have been released and can be
       bought as downloads or listened to on
       streaming services and YouTube.
        Latheron explains that he likes to have a   The start of a musical odyssey with Carl
       story element in his songs. His most   Pemberton of Journey South; holding copies of his
       well-known song is called Run. Like many   book outside a store that stocks it
       of his songs, it has an autobiographical
       element and is based on a difficult   it’s good to be kind to one another. Don’t
       relationship in his past.           ever judge people,” he says.
        He wants his songs to help people who   He has experience of being judged and
       have been in bad relationships: “I want   abused. For example, a few years ago he
       people to know that there is a way out.   was at an airport with the Autism Matters
       You don’t have to stay in a relationship   group. “You could hear other people
       when it’s not working out.” You can run?   saying ‘Look at them spakkas’. And I just
       “Yeah,” he says, laughing, “that’s what the   want to tell people that we are normal
       song is about, yeah, like RUN!” He wants   and we do have feelings. Even the people
       the songs to help people “build their   who can’t speak, they can hear, and they
       mental health and strength                     do have feelings.”
       in their relationships” and                      Latheron says he finds
       in life. Writing the songs                     close relationships hard to
       has helped him.                                make. “Because I am out as
        Asked about inspirations,                     gay and I have had really bad
       Latheron says he                               experiences in relationships,
       particularly admires the                       it’s really hard to trust
       singer Adele “because all                     someone. And sometimes I   do with my autism. I am scared of flying. I
       her songs are basically                       just want to give up on love.   think ‘Oh my God, I could get on a plane
       about her past                                Do you know what I mean?   and it could crash and I could die’. It is a
       relationships and stuff.                      People say: ‘Oh don’t give up   very hard life.”
       She inspires me to write.”                    – there is always someone    At the same time, he feels the
       He also likes Peter Andre,                    there for someone’.”       difficulties he has experienced have
       but not all of his songs.                      I remind him that his book   helped to shape him. “If I didn’t have this
        Latheron mentions                           also gives the same message.   life now, I wouldn’t be who I am now. If I
       Katie Price, who was once married to         “Yeah, but it is very hard to   had never had the ups and downs with
       Andre and he has read my interview with   believe in myself after going from being   relationships, I wouldn’t be a songwriter.
       her (summer, pages 14-15).          bullied at school or college. When I hear   “When I brought my book out, it was so
        “I really like her as a person,” he says. “I   my music on the radio, it’s very hard to   hard. I was thinking: am I doing the right
       have seen the documentary Harvey and   believe that I can achieve stuff, you know.   thing? Am I pushing myself out there you
       Me. I think every parent fights for their   Even now, it’s very hard to believe I’ve got   know for people to think ‘well, he’s got
       kids but, when you’ve got kids with   a book out and that I have got a second   autism’. Well, I might have autism but I
       autism, you’ve got to fight a bit more.”  book coming out very soon as well.”  live a normal life. Do you know what I
                                             He adds that, for an autistic person, life   mean? Like we all do.” He laughs.
       Mission for understanding           can sometimes seem like a big battle and   He plans to launch a podcast: “I want
       Helping people in the wider world   he worries a lot about life.         to talk about autism and bring people in
       understand about autism has become a   “Like whether people may not like me   to talk about their autism as well, and
       mission for him.                    because of the way I speak, or my tone or   play my songs on there about living
        “I am hoping to go into schools after   you know. I think about everything. I am   with autism.” n
       the pandemic and talk about autism, how   always a worried person. I think that’s to   ● www.bobbybigdreamz.com

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